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“Women would dress differently in women’s only gyms”

What?????? I’ve been seeing this claim all over the place since the Shane Gillis comment. I’ve even been seeing WOMEN say this. WHAT?!

People say things like “if women don’t dress for men, then how would they dress in women’s only gyms? I’m sure they’d wear t shirts and baggy sweats”

This is just outrageously stupid and false, so obviously false and so easily proven wrong that I feel like these people must be living under a rock. Has anyone ever stepped foot in a Pilates, yoga, cycling studio etc? Or any exercise-club type of organization that’s predominantly women? (Not saying men can’t do these things just that they’re almost always full of just women)

Women literally wear the exact same things, if not LESS of it.

It makes me so mad that so many people are so convinced that women dress for men, and it makes me self conscious about what I’ve been wearing because NOW I’m thinking about how men are perceiving me when before I was straight up just wearing what I was comfortable in.

I usually wear a tank top and shorts to the gym. I recently started wearing biker shorts sometimes because they don’t ride up and most running shorts have “underwear” inserts that dig into my crotch and HURT after a while!!!! Biker shorts feel like nothing. Plus I don’t get why long leggings are okay, shorts are okay, but biker shorts (which are no tighter or shorter) are “whorish”????

I get that some tight shorts are particularly revealing. Is it sometimes jarring to see an outline of someone’s genitalia a little too clearly? Yes. But the automatic assumption that they’re trying to what, display their labia to whore themselves out for men ?? is just flat out ridiculous. Men are actually delusional.

Also, I do find it interesting that men only seem to notice this about women who meet a certain beauty standard. Two women could be wearing the exact same thing, one a fit 22 year old and the other a middle aged plus sized woman—the young woman would be called a whore and the older woman would be called disgusting. So which is it? Or is it just that instead of admitting that you can’t keep your eyes off of women at the gym who DONT WANT YOU, you’d rather call them whores hoping that the world will believe it’s YOU rejecting THEM?

GOD I used to try to defend men from the whole man-hater thing but recently they have just been on a new level.

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Ending a friendship over Cornell rape case

Ive been friends with this guy for a little over 7 years now. We met in college and I thought he was cute but ofc he turned out to be gay. Which is fine because im an ALLY and have always supported him even when he talks about men for literally 45 minutes straight and expects me to care.

But ever since this Cornell case happened hes been consuming all this redpill misogynistic content on youtube and I swear to god its like his entire personality has changed. Every single time I see him he HAS to bring it up. He knows all the text messages, all the details, all the names, meanwhile I have seen like 4 tiktoks and a headline but somehow I KNOW WHAT HAPPENED. I just do.

He keeps trying to explain to me that its a messy case and that we should wait for all the facts. WAIT FOR WHAT????? MORE FACTS????? How many facts do men need before they can admit other men are bad. Like seriously do we need a 400 page report, 3 documentaries and a powerpoint presentation for people to understand that "free pussy upstairs" is a weird thing to say about a woman???

And hes calling Jane Doe by her real name which he got from some incel forum, which is literally so gross. I dont even know if thats actually her name but the fact that hes saying it like he knows her personally is so weird. He keeps bringing up the texts she sent afterwards and apparently this is supposed to mean something but I dont care. I KNOW SHE WAS RAPED. I dont need to read every single text message to know what happened. I have intuition and honestly thats basically the same thing as evidence sometimes.

And the worst part is that this is my GAY FRIEND. I thought gay men were supposed to understand women. Now hes watching these videos and repeating talking points ffromdisgusting men. I honestly think youtube has destroyed his brain. One minute hes talking about a normal thing and the next minute hes explaining the legal definition of consent to me like sir I have literally been a woman my entire life I think I would know.

At this point I want to end the friendship. SEVEN YEARS down the drain because he decided to become a podcast bro. I dont even know how to have this conversation because what if he gets mad? I dont think he would actually hurt me but im thinking of meeting him in public just in case. Maybe at a Starbucks where there are witnesses and cameras. Or Target because I feel like women are safer at Target for some reason.

Our kickball season just ended so I feel like this is the perfect time to cut him off. I have never ended a friendship before and im genuinely freaking out about it. Do I text him? Call him? Meet him in person? Do I send a 12 page google doc explaining why hes a misogynist? I could include screenshots but then that would make me just as bad as him with the screenshots and honestly I dont need that kind of negativity in my life.

I just dont understand how someone can be gay AND still defend men. Like pick a struggle.

Has anyone else had to end a friendship because someone became politically insufferable? How do you even do this without making it a whole thing? I dont want to argue about the case anymore because every time he brings up another text message I can feel my brain cells dying and I need those for other things, like being a woman.

Please help because I am literally losing my mind over this and I know some people will say im being dramatic but honestly I dont think im being dramatic at all. I just think all men are suspicious now.

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